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Old January 5th, 2019, 11:05 AM
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How to get water pump out

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I did this 8 years ago, but cant remember how in the wortld I ubscrewed ther 3 6mm hex bolts to remove water pump!! Wow- what an ordeal!

I am using an L shaped allen wrench. Should I use a straight 6mm attached to a socket, driven by a ratchet? If so, seems like the car frame is in the way. I managed to unscrew the one at 6 oclock position, but the impossible ones are the 2 and 10 oclock ones.

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Old January 5th, 2019, 12:07 PM
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what year, which engine?
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Old January 5th, 2019, 01:00 PM
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Old January 5th, 2019, 01:33 PM
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I am assuming that the camshaft sprocket AND rear timing belt covers (black plastic) should not be necessary to be removed, as I doubt there is any way unless timing belt itself is removed first. And since when one install a timing belt and tensions it correctly by rotating the water pump, the timing belt AND rear cover must be on already, then water pump gets tensioned to the correct tension.

That is why I am trying to unscrew the 3 water pump bolts first, as no way one can remover the covers. What an ordeal.

How did I do this before???
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Old January 5th, 2019, 02:41 PM
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Got the timing belt our which helped me remove the 2:00 position bolt. The 10:00 position bolt is impossible. I can get an L shape allen wrench in there but no way I can then get a grip on it to crack it with my hand.

Rear cover is still on.
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Old January 5th, 2019, 03:07 PM
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Thnaks, Doug! That helped! Finally got out the last bolt, but it was rough!! If I get into any other snags I will advise!
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Doug, (or anyone else), can you take a look at thre 1st video, around 2:05 to about 2:20 into the film, it shows the crankshaft marks lining up at 6:00 position. Even though the video is for a 92 sunbird, would that mark apply also to my 87? Because I noticed the mark is at 7:00 position when I removed timing belt!

Maybe thats why Ive had a rough running engine for 17 years??!!
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did you have the engine at #1 TDC when you noticed the mark at 7:00?
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I know for a fact that the marks don't line up perfectly when the belt is installed. Can't remember which one is off....( Top or bottom) been a while since I did my belt... 2013 when I installed the used trans I brought when I moved here. Sorry can't help more...Doug in P.R.
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