2005 water in clean air resonator

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Hello all,
I have a 2005 Sunfire and I have not been able to figure out why it keeps collecting water in the clean so r resonator and also the pipe between the clean air resonator and the airbox. I can see that there is moisture coming out of the PCV tube into the resonator. This is not coolant, this is only water. The coolant level is not dropping.
There is also moisture in the oil when I check the dipstick. Has anyone on this forum had this problem? I can't figure out what is wrong but the car runs so well that I don't want to continue running it without fixing the problem.
Any help in finding the problem or any input from others who have had this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and have a great night.
 
Is your engine temperature lower than normal?
Have you had the coolant checked for hydrocarbons?
 
I first noticed this during an oil change over the winter which was quite cold here in Michigan. I found a chunk of ice that was in the low point of the tube between my clean air resonator and the airbox. The chunk of ice was approx half of the ID of the corrugated tube. I did have a leak where the PCV tube plugged into the resonator as it was sheared off, but I made immediate repairs with a new hose and put a fitting in the resonator and sealed with epoxy.
I don't know how to have the coolant check for hydrocarbons but will do some investigation on the inter-webs to see what I can find out. I am really at a loss with concerns over this.
Thanks in advance for any other info that is offered

John
 
dbikers said:
I first noticed this during an oil change over the winter which was quite cold here in Michigan. I found a chunk of ice that was in the low point of the tube between my clean air resonator and the airbox. The chunk of ice was approx half of the ID of the corrugated tube. I did have a leak where the PCV tube plugged into the resonator as it was sheared off, but I made immediate repairs with a new hose and put a fitting in the resonator and sealed with epoxy.
I don't know how to have the coolant check for hydrocarbons but will do some investigation on the inter-webs to see what I can find out. I am really at a loss with concerns over this.
Thanks in advance for any other info that is offered

John
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Heh, please excuse me as i read melsg5's response and wrote my reply on my "smart phone". i am not a proficient reader :D

The engine temp gauge works correctly on this car and the engine temp is somewhere around 195 F...the thermostat is working properly.

i purchased this car for my daughter in october of '14. the oil was just changed before i bought it (i saw the receipt from the dealer) and the oil was clean. she drove it for approx 3 months and i went to change the oil and saw that the PVC hose coming from the valve cover was "holy" and that where it plugs onto the clean air resonator was broken off...at that time i saw the water in the hose connecting the airbox to the resonator (alot of water).
In february i pulled the hose off and found it fill half way with ice.
Checking today the PVC pipe exiting the valve cover going back into the resonator has white "muck" in it...there's moisture in the engine and is venting back into the resonator.

05 Sunfire by dbikers, on Flickr

Not sure if i have a bad head gasket but i don't believe that it's loosing coolant. i will research and see if i just need test the pressure of the coolant system (or if it bleeds down)

On a side note, is there any way to get rid of moisture in the oil other than changing oil/filter a bunch of times??

Again sorry for rambling but wanted to correct some of my earlier statement via computer (not smart phone).

John
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1. Any chance your daughter drove the car through some deep standing water and it got sucked into the intake?
2. Is there any ice or water in the air filter box?
3. The purpose of the coolant hydrocarbon test is to check for exhaust gas in the coolant indicating a blown head gasket.
4. An engine with a 195 thermostat will cause any normal atmospheric moisture to not build up in the oil.
 
melsg5 said:
1. Any chance your daughter drove the car through some deep standing water and it got sucked into the intake?
2. Is there any ice or water in the air filter box?
3. The purpose of the coolant hydrocarbon test is to check for exhaust gas in the coolant indicating a blown head gasket.
4. An engine with a 195 thermostat will cause any normal atmospheric moisture to not build up in the oil.
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1. I noticed the water in the tube prior to winter (before the snow was flying). Shortly thereafter i changed the oil and corrected the PVC hose and nipple on the resonator. I do not believe that my daughter drove through deep standing water.

2. I replaced the air filter at that time and there was no water in the airbox. i believe that that water is coming from the engine

3. I undersand now what the hydrocarbon testing is for...not sure exactly how to do it and also not sure if i can pressureize the cooling system in this car to check the leakdown. Is this possible and if so exactly what tools (gages) are needed.

4. The temp gauge on my daughters car was crap when i bought it....cause the tach and fuel gages to fail as well. I removed the cluster and then replaced the servo motors for each gage (much cheaper than replacing the cluster). After i checked obd2 data...all gages are correct. When the car is bone cold the gage is at "100" at the bottom of the gage. As the car warms up the temp goes up to "195" and maintains that temp until the car is shut off. i believe that the temp gage and thermostat are working as intended.

This all leads me to think the worst (head gasket or cracked head:(). But the car runs very well so i haven't even checked compression yet. I think i'm going to change the oil/filter again (cheap oil this time) and monitor it for a week...if it still ends up with paste on the dipstick i'll dig in more

Thanks in advance for any other response and i will update once i know more.

John
 
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