2006 Pontiac Torrent overheating...??...?

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My 2006 Torrent (60k miles) is overheating. I replaced the thermostat which seemed to fix the problem for about 3 weeks. The fluid levels are fine and I don't see any leaking fluid. Anytime I stop or slow down the temp rises. I have noticed white smoke coming from the exaust. Any advice on what it could be or what to look for would be much appreciated.
 
My 2006 Pontiac torrent its overheating as well

Hi Stacey, my 2006 Pontiac torrent its overheating as well, did you ever found the problem?, in my case both of the fans are working properly, I have replaced the thermostat and water pump, but the problem its coming back again, the fluids levels are ok.
On other forums Ive read about a gasket issue that makes the coolant to leak inside the cylinder chamber, maybe this is why you see white smoke coming from the exaust.
 
Overheating diagnosis

Stacey,
The white smoke coming from the exhaust was nothing else but water steam…but almost sure that at this point you already figure it out.

I am coming back just to leave reference on my issue, it turns out that the issue was a broken head gasket, I will describe at the end a simple test to perform, to find out if this is the root cause of your problem.

There are some references on the web that claim that the formulation of the OEM coolant was “disintegrating” the gaskets after some time, and this is why the manufacturer changed the coolant formulation for later models.

This problem is hard to diagnosis due the fact that everything seems to be normal on the vehicle, fluids are “correct” (when checked), the fans are working properly, but as others, I first tried to correct the problem by changing the thermostat, then the water pump, and finally look out after the broken head gasket issue, all this has to be done with a small mechanic shop as the dealership service area, came out the first time with the incorrect diagnosis of an “intermittent fans failure”, they wanted to change both fans and wire harnesses at a higher cost, and I decide to look out for myself, at the end it will cost me less than half of the dealer’s quote for the “intermittent fans failure”, and this includes changing the thermostat and water pump on my first attempt to solve the problem, I am assuming right now that both (the thermostat and water pump) were working correctly, but cannot go back in time, anyway not been an expert on the matter has a price.

It’s good to mention that despite my 2006 Pontiac Torrent AWD has almost 80,000 miles, it’s been quite reliable, no other problem at all since I bought it about 5 years ago.

As explained by the mechanic, the broken head gasket leads to overheating by some reasons, some are; it reduces the coolant level while been driving, generates “air bubbles” in the coolant system reducing its performance, and increases the friction at the combustion chamber. Even if you check the coolant/water level before driving, it will be consumed while driving, leading to the engine to overheat, and not the other way as I thought, that the coolant/water level got low because an overheated engine.

The problem will be in and out at the beginning or even later on as the crack on the gasket gets bigger, and for many factors as the driving conditions, outside temperature, etc. this is also why this issue its very hard to diagnosis. On my case it will appear when driving back home after work in a hot afternoon throughout the city downtown, with several traffic lights on my way, no been shown when driving directly back home from work using the highway, nor early in the morning/ late night.

At least you have to change the head gasket, and coolant, but its good to make an oil/filter change as well as it can be contaminated with coolant, also you might be forced to change -at an additional cost-, the exhaust, intake and valve cover gaskets, as the mechanic can not commit to reuse the same ones, they can be broken when disassembling the engine. and its strongly advised to change the exhaust, intake and valve cover gaskets as well while the engine its tear apart, as you don’t want to come back latter on with an oil leak. There is also a small chance –small chance, but still a possibility- that the engine head has a crack, that in most cases can be repaired, or you must be forced to buy a brand new one. The worst case scenario its that you broke down the entire engine by running it too hot, for too long, on all this the labor cost its for more the most expensive portion.

One key indicator of a broken head gasket –besides the overheating problem- is that when starting the engine in the morning and after a long overnight rest to let it cool down enough, you will notice that the engine shakes more than usual, just like when a spark plug its faulting, this will go away after a few minutes when driving and in most cases it wont come back until next morning, the reason of this is that when the engine its cool enough it allows the coolant into the combustion chamber overnight and to stay there, once you start the engine first thing the next morning the engine will be shaking until the water/coolant its consumed inside the combustion chamber, then the engine will behave regular, if this is also happening to you, this is a simple test to diagnosis the broken head gasket issue:
Let the engine rest overnight to let it cool down enough, early next morning, remove the spark plugs and look out for any coolant/water residues on the spark plug tip, if not for sure, ask a friend to attempt to start the engine while you look for coolant/water residues “splashing” out of the open holes where the spark plugs were removed, if there is coolant/water residues, it will be very evident, even for a non-expert eye.

Also others recommends to check your exhaust after you have ran for about 5 min. and see if you smell burnt antifreeze, other recommend looking for white “smoke” coming from the exhaust, that is nothing else but water steam.
Since similar engines are shared across different GMC brands (i.e. Pontiac Torrent, Chevrolet Equinox, Pontiac Aztec, etc.) chances are that this will be the same root cause for an overheating engine issue on those other brands.

Good luck.
Tags: Pontiac Torrent Overheating, Chevrolet Equinox Overheating, Pontiac Aztec Overheating
 
Head Gasket Replacement

Thanks for the detailed description on the Head Gasket diagnosis. I am now %100 certain that i need to replace the HG on my '06 Pontiac Torrent. I was just wondering if there're other parts i should replace or clean wile i have it somewhat apart. for example, I watched a vid on youtube where the guy suggested taking the valves out and cleaning the carbon off of them. another suggestion was to replace the head bolts and some other gaskets. another vid suggests to change the thermostat, plugs and wires while the engine is somewhat apart because it easily accessible and would save time and money coming back later to have to replace those parts. Any suggestions, tips, "tricks of the trade", or things I could do or watch for would be appreciated.

Thanks Again!
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My car is doing the exact same thing, if car is under 2rpm's it quickly overheats. When i accelerate to 50-60 + mph engine cools down. Dealer states it is a clogged thermostate which needs to be replaced. Hope this helps. Any shop can dx this quickly to see if that is your problem.
 
That makes no sense, I think you need a new dealer. it sounds like you have a problem with the engine fan not the thermostat.
 
My car is doing the exact same thing, if car is under 2rpm's it quickly overheats. When i accelerate to 50-60 + mph engine cools down. Dealer states it is a clogged thermostate which needs to be replaced. Hope this helps. Any shop can dx this quickly to see if that is your problem.


m1ssmiles,
I am happy to hear that your dealer was able to get this issue fixed for you. If any other concerns arise please feel free to contact me.
Thank you,
Stacy GM Customer Service
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Hi,
Actually I wrote in my previoys note that it was a clogged thermostate, that was incorrect. I mean to say radiator. The radiator was replaced yesterday and now dealer is saying they "fixed the flow problem" by installing a new radiator however after 5 block tests (since one week ago) the last one "failed" and now I need a new head gasket. I am questioning the accuracy of diagnosising the car the first time months ago now when there was "air in the lines" In the last 2 months have had overflow tank replaced, new thermetor, new water pump replaced ???????? HELP
 
How did they determine you need a new head gasket? If your unsure please ask them and post the answer.
 
Hi,
Actually I wrote in my previoys note that it was a clogged thermostate, that was incorrect. I mean to say radiator. The radiator was replaced yesterday and now dealer is saying they "fixed the flow problem" by installing a new radiator however after 5 block tests (since one week ago) the last one "failed" and now I need a new head gasket. I am questioning the accuracy of diagnosising the car the first time months ago now when there was "air in the lines" In the last 2 months have had overflow tank replaced, new thermetor, new water pump replaced ???????? HELP



m1ssmiles,
I would like to look into this for you? Can you please send me a PM with your name, address, phone number, VIN, current mileage and the name of the dealership that you are working with? I look forward to hearing back from you.
Thank you,
Stacy GM Customer Service
 
Thanks for the detailed description on the Head Gasket diagnosis. I am now %100 certain that i need to replace the HG on my '06 Pontiac Torrent. I was just wondering if there're other parts i should replace or clean wile i have it somewhat apart. for example, I watched a vid on youtube where the guy suggested taking the valves out and cleaning the carbon off of them. another suggestion was to replace the head bolts and some other gaskets. another vid suggests to change the thermostat, plugs and wires while the engine is somewhat apart because it easily accessible and would save time and money coming back later to have to replace those parts. Any suggestions, tips, "tricks of the trade", or things I could do or watch for would be appreciated.

Thanks Again!


I would suggest taking the heads off and taking them to a shop that can check and make sure that the surface is flat and that the head hasnt warped from any overheating. I work at an autoparts store that has a machine shop and I have seen repeat customers that didnt want to resurface a warped head and they have come back some time later and gotten it done after blowing another gasket.

While you have the heads in the shop they can check and see if the valves are leaking and make sure that you will be able to put them back on worry free. Just search for a machine shop that does quality work and you wont regret it!
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Pontiace 2006 Torrent overheating

My 2006 Torrent (60k miles) is overheating. I replaced the thermostat which seemed to fix the problem for about 3 weeks. The fluid levels are fine and I don't see any leaking fluid. Anytime I stop or slow down the temp rises. I have noticed white smoke coming from the exaust. Any advice on what it could be or what to look for would be much appreciated.

After taking my care to several mechanics for the same reasons everyone is describing I found I had a cracked head gasket. This happened to me at 36 months but 44,000 miles. At the time there were not stories such as the ones posted about the problems I was having. It cost me $1800 tofix and now it seems that it is a common problem. The car is acting up again with 90,000 miles and I hope and pray it is not the same problem.!:mad:
 
2006 Torrent

i have an 06 Torrent with just over 100k that was over heating as well. It was a head gasket. At first some said its the thermostat, some say an air lock....but in the end it was a costly head gasket.

i guess its not to bad, have had it from new and love it. first major repair, not bad i guess. just a hint to get by until you can (afford too, in my case) get it fixed. when stopped at a light, put it in "N" and bring the RPM's up over 2500, this brings the temp down. a lil tip that got me a few extra weeks of driving without trashing my engine.
 
New Engine? Is it worth it?

Hi all,
I have had the same problem as mentioned here.
I can see lots of people indicating this is a common problem with the Torrent front wheel drive engine.
I took mine into the dealer and they indicated I needed the head gaskets repaired however, they also seemed to indicate this was not a good solution as it would likely require many more things to be fixed and tended to lead to more problems.
They suggested a new engine at 6k or a even suggested i get a new vehicle.
Not very satisfying solutions for a vehicle with 100k and to address a known problem with these vehicles.
Does anyone have any suggestions about a solution for this?
Would a used engine be reasonable or will the used engine likely have the same problem?
Is there an alternative engine that does not have this problem that can be used?
Does anyone know a mechanic that specializes in these engines who has developed an expertise that can make this a usable vehicle without charging me for every failed attempt at fixing it.
Thannks.
 
Do you have one or more blown head gaskets that have been determined by either the presence of hydrocarbons in the coolant or doing a compression test?
When removing the oil filler cap, do you see a creamy brown substance in the cap?
Are you constantly losing engine coolant and there is no external leak?
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I have 2006 Pontiac Torrent with 117K miles that is having the EXACT same issues - looks like a head gasket. Not sure what to do now - no way I can afford a $1500 repair
 
I have a 2007 Pontiac Torrent with a 154k miles on it and it just started over heating last night. However it sounds like the AC fan no longer works. Does anyone know what fuse that fan is on or a rough estimate of how much it is to fix it. I'm between jobs right now but a $1500 into this car for a head gasket is at the point I rather just put a down payment on a new car. I remember from my 1994 jeep Cherokee that I could bring down the temp by shutting off the air and recirculation switch and putting the dial all the way to the hottest setting and the temp would go down. This works for me both driving and at idle but in 90 degree heat its not really a solution.
 
I have an 06 Torrent that has overheated repeatedly over the last 5 months. I have had the fans, thermostat, and relay all replaced. Just replaced entire engine last week because head gaskets were bad. The engine replacement was done to avoid further engine trouble from all the overheating compromising the engine. It is still overheating!! The heating core was disconnected and the car worked fine for 2 days and then went back to overheating. The new engine has a new water pump and thermostat. The radiator is clean, no leaks or cracks. My mechanic is running out of ideas and I am running out of money.
 
if you turn on the ac do the engine fans come on?
when the car does overheat are the fans running?
 
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